NARS Satin Lipstick - Honolulu Honey (Beige) 0.12oz (3.4g)

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NARS: It’s really crazy. Bourdin was one of the photographers who really influenced me to become a makeup artist, and I felt that he deserved to be given credit for that. We have purples and coppers . . . I mean, I knew the photographs so well that it was kind of easy to put the whole thing together. His son, Samuel, gave us access to all of the archives, so I was able to use the images as part of it.

EVANGELISTA: Did you love working with him during the era when you worked with him, or did you wish you could’ve worked with him in another time? Guy bourdin waS onE of ThE phoToGraphErS who rEaLLy infLuEncEd mE To bEcomE a makEup arTiST, and i fELT ThaT hE dESErVEd To bE GiVEn crEdiT for ThaT. François Nars NARS: Of course, I love it then. [ laughs] I mean, it’s like plastic surgery. The toughest thing is to not overdo it; same like you don’t overdo plastic surgery. It takes great talent to do good postproduction work. That’s why it’s so out of hand right now. I didn't notice any scent or taste, though there is "fragrance (parfum)" listed in the ingredients--it smelled neutral, not waxy but I just didn't get any scent. EVANGELISTA: So what’s your favorite thing to do now? Making makeup? Taking pictures? Working on your campaigns? Or do you love all of it?Linda Evangelista, who has known Nars since the late ’80s—and has frequently served as a canvas for some of his most iconic work—recently met up with him at the Star Lounge at the Ritz-Carlton Hotel off Central Park in Manhattan. EVANGELISTA: It looks good even on pink skin. I have a redheaded friend who looks beautiful in pink. But Orgasm isn’t exactly pink. NARS: I think I was re-powdering you, and Calvin was talking to me, and you said to me, “You’ve got to focus.” Then I remember the next day I was working with Steven and I said to him, “I worked with this girl, and she was heaven. I don’t know why, but I loved painting her and I loved the attitude. She was very pro—I turn my head, and I was not focusing, and she said, ‘Focus.’ There was something about her . . .” And he said, “Yeah, somebody from her agency told me I should see her.” So I was one of the ones who actually told Steven, “You have to see this girl. She’s definitely working.” [ laughs] I remember like it was yesterday. I said to Steven, “You know, this girl was tough . . . But I kind of like that.”

EVANGELISTA: When you work with a retoucher, do you talk to them and tell them what you want? Or do you sit there and guide them, direct them?

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NARS: And that’s how I believe we became better and better—me for makeup; you in front of the camera. The more you work and the more you start being molded by the photographer- and by the hair, by the makeup, and discovering new angles, new makeup, and all that—that’s how you built up into being who you are today. But that, to me, is completely gone. I mean, which girl today do you see growing and transforming herself into an icon? There are not many. EVANGELISTA: There’s always so much hype when you launch a new collection. The blogs go crazy. Does that freak you out? NARS: It’s a good one. But I designed this color like I would have designed any other color. I swear I never thought this was a special color.EVANGELISTA: I just have so many great—and very blurry—memories of those days when we started working together. EVANGELISTA: It’s those colors you always mixed together to put on my face—the colors that you used on me. They were flat and matte, and then you’d add. NARS: I’m very shy so, of course, going to a store where there are 300 people waiting in line is a bit overwhelming. It’s not my favorite thing in the world. I like to be in the studio, playing with friends, in a small group. But the reward of seeing those women is very nice. NARS: It actually ended up that Stephanie gave me one of her prints. [ laughs] I have two prints of Stephanie from when we did Egoïste—one where she has a little monkey on her shoulder.

EVANGELISTA: I thought you were critiquing. I thought I was gonna be thrown out for the knees and the gums. NARS: Maybe . . . I mean, the good part about X-Ray was the fact that it mixed together so many different people. So many people have asked me, “Why don’t you do a second X-Ray?” So now I’m supposed to do a second one, which I’m going to start in May. All of the people I could not get the first time—I’m gonna photograph them now.

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EVANGELISTA: I can only do Honolulu Honey. [ sings] Honey, where’d you get those eyes? [ both laugh] I love my Honolulu Honey. EVANGELISTA: You know, I recently tried to buy my son a pink polo shirt, and he was like, “That’s a girl color.” But I kept telling him pink looks good on everybody. You’re the one who taught me that.